Episode 1: Send Recovery // Secrets Beyond The Sacramento River

A nine to one to one call in Sacramento, California, was made the evening of September ninth, twenty twenty three. By I did bet nine one ville Ville. You've got a call from a third party caller and we have a vehicle that went into the water at Forton Road and River Road. Eyewitnesses report a car on River Road inside the area known as the Delta, slowly rolling from a stop, continuing down the road, making a ninety degree left turn down an embankment, and slowly entering the Sacramento River. It wouldn't be until four days later, on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three, that rescue efforts would be made, and it's then that Jeff Anderson, a Mexican Caucasian forty year old mail was pulled from inside his car from the bottom of the Sacramento River, just five hundred yards from where his car entered the water. Law enforcement officials removed Jeff's car key from the front pocket of his pants. The car's transmission is in park, the car was upside down. Jeff's body was in the back seat. Immediately, rumors begin to spread that Jeff was assaulted. The evening of his death, his cell phone was never recovered. However, months following Jeff's death, Jeff's social media accounts alerted his family of loggin attempts, password attempt changes. We have the original locations logged by Jeff's phone, but it's left us with more questions than answers. And that's all we needed to know to dive deep into Jeff's story. And here we go. The following statement is absolutely the opinion of the podcasters and the network which represents us. The circumstances surrounding Jeff Anderson's September ninth, twenty twenty three death should have warranted a criminal investigation by the Sacramento Sheriff's Department full stop. Instead, Jeff's death was tossed to the side and written off as an accident. Jeff was accused of being a freeloader, there were claims he committed suicide, and then there's the assumption that perhaps Jeff's death was a car insurance job. Could that then explain why it took four days to retrieve Jeff's car and his body from the bottom of the Sacramento River. After we thoroughly reviewed police reports, autopsy reports, call logs, web search history, social media messages, and severe inconsistencies, we can confidently say that Jeff Anderson deserved better. I'm Jules and I'm Jen and we're the investigative podcasting team behind Fireeyes Media, LLC. And this case is different. This case, above any others we've immersed ourselves into, has been the most frustrating and quiet, as we learned throughout the last two years working with Jeff's family that the only ones doing any real deep dives and asking investigative questions is us. But it's this realization which pulled us closer to Jeffy Anderson's sister, whom we'll call Rebecca. We connected with Rebecca through social media with our work on our podcast Missing in Hush Town. We knew we needed to help her. So here we are, and we don't expect anyone listening to believe what we believe. In Hey, we don't always know what to believe. We are researching in halls that have no echoes, only whispers which stop and start with one person's mouth to another's ears. Only a few times passing through have we been lucky enough to hear in on the conversations people don't want to talk, which have we thank you? Perhaps it's the title of the podcast, Secrets Beyond the Sacramento River. Should we not have released the title until the project was complete, Although we have heard that the word secrets has been off putting to residents of the area and anyone who knew Jeff. We don't care for a man whose nickname was the unofficial mayor of el Grove. Something doesn't sit right. It's too quiet. It's too quiet. Yes, we've heard it. All our posts have left people thinking that we're out to get them, and we say yes to that. We say yes we are to a degree. If you are someone who is hiding out information or should we say, keeping secrets, then yes, but you're actually wrong about one thing. We're not out to get you. We are out to get the truth for Jeff. You see, it was never about you. This is a limited investigative podcast searching for answers for the essential question what happened to Jeff Anderson. The names of some individuals have been changed to protect their identity, yet the identities are of public record. To see our sources and to find podcast asse, please visit fireiyesmedia dot com. This is chapter one. Send recovery. Vote, any vibevote, any picular engine, anyone can firm response to River Road important? Do you have an incident description or an updated location after where. We should be heading. You'd be able to get some type of recovery team out here. Oh yeah, clear the scene and let share a handle it from for their rescue people. I mean anyone undering clarantine I NS to handle the rescue. You know only nine nine s advice that their marine starge. We'll be checking in the morning. The advice also unable to locate vehicles and hand pass either. We're going to take you through each aspect of this case, theory, pieces of evidence and clues uncovered along our way, but we need to start where it all ended for Jeff, and that's on River Road. September ninth, twenty twenty three, nine forty five pm. It's a clear night for the community alongside the Sacramento River, a community referred to as the Delta. Although this area of the Delta is a smaller community filled with mostly agricultural land, the entire Sacramento San Joaquin Delta is seven hundred thousand acres of what looks like a watery maize two of California's largest rivers collide to form this the Sacramento River and the San Joaquin River. The US Environmental Protection Agency reports, quote today there are approximately one thousand, one hundred miles of levees in the delta, protecting six hundred twenty five miles of protective agricultural areas and five hundred thousand residents in small rural communities and urban areas end quote. And it's in one of the rural communities in Sacramento County that we bring you to today. The audio you heard previously was from the dispatch inner department recordings provided to the family by the California Highway Patrol. This is not the nine one one call audio. We're going to piece together the dispatch calls and the dispatch record slash notes that they took while their nine one one call was a curry. Then we'll read the actual witness statements given to the California Highway Patrol. Then maybe we can learn together Wyatt took four days to recover Jeff from the water, just five hundred feet from where his car entered. Let's walk through it together. At nine forty five PM, an eyewitness calls nine one one. We've named him Stanley. The address of the call is taken and information begins to be sourced. At nine forty seven pm, Stanley reports a white sedan with its hazards on. Dispatch then documents that Stanley observes that the stalled vehicle started driving off down the levee into the river. At nine forty eight pm, the reporting party, also known as Stanley, can quote unquote see from his R above. R means his aerial view, indicating he's located at a higher point than the vehicle. Stanley then indicates, while still on the phone with dispatch, that he's going to go check it out. At nine nine pm, the call is accidentally disconnected. At nine point fifty pm, Dispatch gets a radio call from the Sack fire chief himself requesting law enforcement, fire personnel, and medical. He specifically asks for his units. Now, this is not a nine to one to one call. This is a call from the fire radio to the dispatch radio. Fight it betch nine one drill girl. Right, He's got a call from a third party caller and a vehicle that went into the water at Borden Road and River Road. Can you send out my unit's Claude ninety two, Engine ninety one and thin a minute. Nine four dispatch records per sackfire. One of their units was informed by word of. Mouth any one hundred five dispatch Bordon and River Road JULP crossing cat do you have another intersection. Borden Road and River Road. Dispatch then puts the call out. Engine ninety one, quads ninety two both ninety six, Medic seventy two, Boat ninety five, Ettrict ninety one River Road and Borden Road Engine ninety one, Quad ninety two, both ninety six, Medic seventy two, Boat ninety five operations AA. We want to make sure we all note that dispatch calls two boats to the scene that night, Boat ninety five and Boat ninety six. Remember that. Nine four pm dispatch logs vehicle now submerged in the water, unknown if there's anybody inside the vehicle. Nine five dispatch logs code SAG. This is a California Highway Patrol code for safety admonishment. Given what is unclear is the subcode. There are many additional codes to add to the SAG, such as SAG, DASH, SD SEDAN or SV Suspect vehicle Dispatch makes another attempt to receive confirmation from boat ninety five and boat ninety six. Engine nety one, vote ninety five or vot ninety six confirm respond to River road and Vordon Road Engine ninety one vote ninety five vote anety thick. The conformis punk. Vote ninety five, vote ninety six or engine any one confirm respond to River road in Vordon quote ninety engine any five responding quote ninety five responding operation to a eight twelf eight. Part effecting the ninety one er swimming unable to locate the vehicle. We're still in us getting over here. Uh h is not on scene nine one zero girl, have you located it yet? Off of that. Might be of recovery, then he will continue looking. Sorry back nine one rosero pretty fresh. You'll be able to get some type of recovery team out here. In fact nine one thrill fretty much. Oh yeah, clearly been. Uh We're let strap handle it from for their rescue team. Have you nine one hundred clarante nine nine have to handle the rescue team? Sorry this Secsion nine much I is also the unable to locate the vehicles and no patience either a etail vehicle and patient if only nine on nine f device that their marine sergeant will be checking in the morning. Now, we don't have timestamps for the audio dispatch calls, but we can line them up. Stanley calls nine to one one gets disconnected. Sack Fire calls in that someone informed his unit by word of mouth of the car going into the river. And it's at ten thirty seven PM that dispatch logs no signs of distress. Vehicle is submerged in the water and if SSO wants to they can start a dive team or they can contact their s unit. At ten forty three pm, SSO has paged the dive team and they're working with Fire to determine what response is needed. They also advise the coast guard at one fourteen am, which leads us into September tenth middle of the night. Dive team starts working with the Coastguard at three fifty five am September tenth. The dispatch code assigned to this call was changed. Originally, the California Highway Patrol had the code as eleven seventy nine Traffic Collision Slash eleven forty one en route. That was changed to eleven eighty two, which is a traffic collision but no injury. Eleven seventy nine is a California Highway Patrol code describing not only what type of accident has occurred, but it also indicates that medical is en route or has been requested. Eleven forty one indicated the ambulance was on the way. Before four am, still without a car found or possible crash victim. The code is changed to eleven eighty two. Eleven eighty two indicated a traffic collision property damage only. It would then cancel the request for a medic Eleven forty one as this code indicated there are no injuries and the only damage is to a vehicle or property. Since there are no actual reported injuries, medical is unneeded. This code indicated a non injury, followed by five oh one am on September tenth, still quote per SSO and SFD Again that Sacramento Sheriff and Sacramento Fire, SFD and SSO. We're going back and forth with who was going to continue the marine detail. End quote. Now it's clear at this point that this is a recovery mission, not a rescue mission. Before we move on, we need to dissect a few things. Why was the incident code changed from a traffic collision and needing medical to a collision with is property or car damage? Was the car seen? No, we know it was not found from a visual search from the land by CHP. It's dark. It's very dark. There are no street lights or any other lights to illuminate the area. We have eyewitnesses stating exactly where the car went in The witness states the hazards are on and the car begins to roll from a stop. Why would they assume nobody was in the vehicle? Does law enforcement need to do a visual confirmation of a victim in a crash to justify the eleven seventy nine code and to bring out medics? And if this call was taken at nine forty five pm, why did the code change at three point fifty five am, still with no medic upon arrival. Is it because there was a warning against conditions which was logged in the dispatch codes? Did the code eleven eighty two move Jeff to the bottom of importance? But if they can justify a code change by what they didn't see, can't they justify moving with urgency based on more of what they do know an eyewitness reports a vehicle going into the water, recalled dispatch advised that the marine sergeant will be checking in in the morning. Did this happen morning would be September tenth. What were they checking because we know dive teams did not go out until September eleventh. Of course they can't see anything. The water is murky. You cannot see Jeff in the water without physically diving into the water. Who is the marine sergeant? Can we contact them for clarification? We make a note to follow up. What we want to know is this Why is the Sacramento Sheriff still trying to coordinate a dive team with soner for recovery efforts on September eleventh, twenty twenty three. Why did it take so long to coordinate? Is this all because the code was changed and the urgency was removed from the original data logued? And this leads us to the scene of the incident on September eleventh. If only nine to nine have devised that their marine sergeant will be checking in the morning. Did they actually come to check on September tenth, twenty twenty three? We know divers came September eleventh, But what happened on September tenth? And who was it who conducted the dive? Helpful information would be this was the water rescue team taking calls with higher importance per the codes? Was September eleventh the first time recovery was accessible. How can we get logs of other calls for the water recovery team? And did boat ninety five or boat ninety six ever actually show up? Why did it take seven hours to change the code and call off medics and does this mean it subsequently canceled boats ninety five and ninety six. Is this common protocol? No, from what we've been able to research, just over four days for recovery is not common. We make a note to ask fire Chief Vince Peters upon recording we've been in correspondence with him in. Text Jules Monday March sixteenth, twenty twenty six, six seventeen pm Central. Hello, mister Peters, I'm an investigated podcaster looking into Jeff Anderson's case, which occurred on nine nine twenty three. I have records that you were on the scene that evening and would like to ask some clarifying questions to help fill in some holes in our knowledge. Are you open to a phone call? Thank you? Jewels Thorpe, Mister Vince Peters, March twenty second, twenty twenty six, eleven fifty eight am Central. Good morning, Juels Thorp. This is Fire Chief Peters from Courtland Fire District. First of all, I'd like to apologize to you for the late response. I've been kind of busy. I will look into this incident that we had on nine nine twenty three and get you the information you need. Jules March twenty second, twenty twenty six, twelve forty five pm Central. I appreciate the response. Thank you. We'll update in subsequent episodes if the conversations continue. Above all, we want to learn and be educated about typical protocols, typical response times, and if all the steps taken for Jeff's case fall within those norms. Now, the morning of September eleventh, twenty twenty three, Jeff Anderson and fails to show up for his scheduled work shift. His family files a missing person's report, and then it's on September eleventh that a dive team will arrive and find Jeff's car, the windows rolled up and the water too murky to see to identify if anyone was actually inside the vehicle. The vehicle is tagged and the license plates are submitted to the team to be run for identification. Help. Neighbor's friends and some family will gather at the levee as words spreads, some of Jeff's friends will take their personal boats on the water to try to find Jeff themselves, claiming they found his location from a ping from Jeff's cell phone. We'll talk more on that later. Behind the scenes, Jeff's family and friends are making calls all over the Delta. Fire departments are called and asked about Jeff. Could he have been unidentifiable in an accident or transported to a hospital. It's then that a fire chief calls dispatch and tells them of a possible identity of the white sedan just flowed in the water. A Jeff Anderson from nearby town named Galt was reported missing last scene September ninth, and. In another forty eight hours, recovery teams will pull Jeff's twenty fourteen white Ford Focus out from the bottom of the Sacramento River, just a mere five hundred feet, give or take, from where his car first entered the water. Why was Jeff left at the bottom of the river from the evening of September ninth through September thirteenth, per the dispatch report logged at eleven twenty one am. Quote, SS Detective Keegan Marina Task Force called about this log Courtland Fire Department. Fire Chief in Speters, who was also there that night, also called and was advised by the fire chief of Walnut Grove Fire Department that there was a missing person possibly associated with this traffic collision. Jeff Anderson last scene driving a white Ford focus. Detective Keegan with fire Chief Peters to coordinate statements that SSO would be gathering a boat with sonar impossible dive team end quote. We will revisit this, but let's read what the witnesses who called nine to one one on September nine, twenty twenty three told California Highway Patrol. In my hands right here, I have the official crash report from the California Highway Patrol, the CHP officer preparer of this report, Carlos Guzman, and the report reviewer Jeff Lloyd. Now it should be noted that this document sites it was reviewed on June twentieth, twenty twenty four. A wopping forty weeks and five days since Jeff's car first went into the water. One thing you may begin to notice throughout this podcast appears to be the lack of urgency. We'll see that soon with the car forensics report timeline as well. Now, this report indicates weather clear, lighting dark, no street lights, roadway surface dry, and no unusual can dditions. Traffic controlled devices. Refer to the narrative. Refer to the narrative. Now, if you're unfamiliar with how traffic crash reports look, will upload this one to our website. But it's fairly straightforward. The first part has many checklists tomork and go through. Then the officer writes their narrative and that is in the second part of the report. The narrative is additional information to expand upon. It identifies parties involved in their statements, and expands upon the details of the crash. In the narrative, it says, quote vehicle path impression to dirt grass, negative grade embankment approximately six feet wide end quote. There is an attached image that CHP does include the report, and we'll post that on our website. But it's very important to know the road was not sloped. There was zero grade until the car goes off the road, then it travels down to the water. This is important because, per eyewitness statements and dispatch calls, the witness says Jeff's car was stopped and then moved to a slow crawl down the road. The report continues, It indicates that there was no other car involved, no pedestrians were involved, and the vehicle's automation was not engaged. Let's break that down a little bit. Okay, guys, vehicle automation engaged means that a co pilot, adaptive cruise control, or lane steering assist would have been engaged. Jeff's car would not have steering assists. But by checking that box that no automation was engaged, what it does then is claim this that Jeff was driving the vehicle. Jeff had full control of the steering, the braking, and the acceleration. What we want to know is this was this an assumption because the report was written after Jeff's body was recovered, and since he was in the vehicle, he must have been driving it, even though the eye witnesses repeatedly stated that they did not see anyone in the vehicle, and then we'll read the statements from family and friends who showed up on the scene on September eleventh, who talked to the witnesses and will tell you now their stories are not the same. Let's dive into the first statement from the CHP report. The following is a direct quote from the narrative supplemental report of the CHP report, as prepared by ALFRISA. Guzman. Only names of the witnesses happen changed. Witness number one Stanley, was interviewed on scene on September ninth, twenty twenty four. Stanley verbally identified himself by name and date of birth. He related in essence the following He was driving to his residence the exact address has been rejected on River Road when he observed vehicle number one, a Ford, parked just north of his driveway facing northbound. Stanley noted that he did not see any occupants within or around vehicle number one, and that was abnormal, so he called nine one one. After he called nine one one, he walked back up his driveway and saw vehicle number one, the Ford, rolling down the embankment, entering the Sacramento River and floating about fifty yards before fully submerging. Now, let's put that into sequence. Stanley alleges he comes home there's a car without a visible occupant parked at the entrance of his driveway. He says it's odd, so he calls nine one one. Can we say that it's odd because he seldom sees cars pulled over there? Or does he call nine one one every time there's a parked or pulled over car in that area? The words he walked back up his driveway indicates he drove down to his house parked, called nine one one, then walked up his driveway on foot to the unknown parked white car. He tells Officer Guzman the evening of September ninth, twenty twenty three, that he called nine one one after he saw the car rolling. Now, this is important to note, So let's put a pin in that, and we'll be revisiting this many times throughout the podcast. Another California Highway Patrol officer, Officer J. Lloyd, conducts a second interview of witness number one Stanley, but this time it is eleven weeks and four days after the first interview. On November twenty ninth, twenty twenty three. Officer Lloyd calls Witness number one Stanley on the telephone. The following is mister Stanley's recollection per Officer Lloyd's interview. Again eleven and a half weeks after his initial interview, he related the following. On the evening of the crash, he was driving southbound down River Road approaching his residence with his partner, Witness number three. There was a curve approximately zero point five miles south of his residence where motorists often pull over to rest or make phone calls. Stanley observed vehicle number one on the right shoulder near the turnout. Head lamps were illuminated. As Witness number one, Stanley approached vehicle number one, he noticed it was stopped on the right shoulder, with its right tires in the ivy and the left tires still in the lane. Stanley slowed approximately five miles per hour while passing, but noted there were not lights illuminating Vehicle number one's interior and he couldn't see any occupants. He thought the vehicle may be abandoned. Stanley continued past vehicle number one and drove down his driveway to his residence, which is a small hill approximately one hundred to one hundred and fifty feet from the roadway. Stanley maintained his visual of vehicle number one, noting it had not moved. Stanley calls nine one one to report vehicle number one, as he thought it was a little strange, but the call gets disconnected. Stanley began walking up towards the vehicle with a high powered flashlight. The vehicle started rolling forward and then went to the left. Stanley observed the tail lights of the vehicle and then heard a clunk, clunk, clunk as the vehicle crashed and then went into the river. Stanley then recalled nine to one one and ran up to the levee. Stanley follows the vehicle down the river and yells at the vehicle, trying to gain the attention of any occupants, if there were in fact any. Stanley noted it was very quiet at his residence and during this entire time he heard no sounds of any people running, talking, closing doors, or any other vehicles. He also notes that he observed no person's blocking or obscuring his view of the vehicle's tail lamps, which led him to believe no one pushed the vehicle over the edge. Stanley used his high powered flashlight to search the abandoned warehouse just south of his residence. He also searched the surrounding areas, the yard and tree fort in his residence and the hill leading to it, as well as the levee for any persons possibly involved with the vehicle. Stanley was rather certain there were no other persons involved in the incident. He observed no strange footprints or trampling of the ivy. And now we fast forward to June twelfth, twenty twenty four, when thirty nine weeks and four days after the date of the incident, Officer Lloyd again calls Stanley. On June twelfth, twenty twenty four, at approximately fourteen thirty eight hours, Officer j Lloyd spoke with Stanley again. Stanley added his original statement was accurate and reiterated there were no other vehicles or persons near Vehicle one on the night of the crash. Before we tell you why, Officer Lloyd approached witness number one two additional times after September night, twenty twenty three about his statement, we need to bring in witness number three, Jessica. Jessica was interviewed in person on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three. We would like to know why Jessica was not also interviewed on September ninth, the evening of the nine one one call, as Jessica was in the car with Witness number one. Why did Officer Lloyd wait until the day of just recovery from the bottom of the river to interview her. Why didn't Officer Guzman interview her initially September ninth, especially since she's mentioned and witnessed Number one's account of the events Officer Lloyd reported. Jessica related in essence the following On September ninth, twenty twenty three, between twenty one forty and twenty one fifty hours, she was traveling southbound on SR one sixty, approximately one mile north of her residence with Witness one Stanley, who was driving. As they came around a bend in the road, she observed a vehicle later determined to be Vehicle number one. The Ford stopped at the right shoulder on northbound River Road near her residence. In that area, she's used to seeing vehicles stop because there's a wide turnout just south of her residence. As they approached Vehicle one, she saw that it was stopped on the right shoulder just north of her driveway, straddling the ivy. As they passed the vehicle, there were no lights illuminating the interior and she couldn't see the occupants. Stanley and Jessica grabbed flashlights. Stanley calls nine one one to report the vehicle, as they thought it may have been a ditched stolen vehicle. While Stanley was attempting to get a hold of nine one one the original call that gets disconnected, Jessica observes Vehicle one suddenly drive forward. A moment later, she hears Vehicle one crashing in the rocks along the edge of the Sacramento River. Jessica advises Stanley to call nine one one again while she ran up to the levee and called her dad, who worked with the local volunteer fire department. Jessica estimated it took her approximately fifteen to twenty seconds to make it to the levee, where she then saw the vehicle in the river and floating south. Jessica and Stanley illuminated the vehicle with their flashlights and yelled for any persons in it. They followed the vehicle as it floated downstream for approximately three minutes. At no time during the three minutes did Jessica hear any persons or observe any movement with the vehicle. Jessica noted it was really quiet and calm that night, and she didn't hear any other sounds in the surrounding area that would make her believe there was another person or vehicle in the area. And then, just like Officer Lloyd did with Stanley, he followed up one final time with Jessica and again. This is in June of twenty twenty four, months after she gave her first statement on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three. On June twelfth, twenty twenty four, at approximately thirteen thirty nine hours, Officer j Lloyd spoke with Witness number two again. Witness number two added her original statement was accurate and she reiterated there were no other vawvehicles or persons near Vehicle IE on the night of the crash. We know Officer Lloyd was the reviewer of this report, However, he missed his own air Witness number two was not Jessica. Jessica was witness number three. So who was witness number two? Jeff Anderson's father was he there that evening of September ninth. No, did he witness his son going into the Sacramento River. No, So why was he entered into the report as a witness. Well, we believe it's because when Jeff didn't show up to work on September eleventh, the family knew something was gravely wrong. Jeff simply did not miss work, and he simply did not cease communication with his family. Officer Lloyd interviewed Jess's father on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three, the same day that Jeff's car and body was being recovered from the bottom of the Sacramento River. So, no, Jeff's father did not see Jeff go into the water on September ninth, twenty twenty three. What Jeff's father saw is what no father should should ever see, and that's Jeff's body being removed from the bottom of the Sacramento River on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three. Jeff's father was there September thirteenth, watching what everyone now knew was going to be his son's vehicle dragged out of the river, and then he had to watch as his son was removed from the car. The same day, Jeff's father would be escorted over where his son's body would be, and the same day he would be asked to visually identify his only son. We'll share more about what Jeff's father saw, reported, and recalls in the next episodes, but first we need to know this was law enforcement ever on the scene on September ninth, twenty twenty three, or was it just a fire department and those who did go was it just the relatives of Jessica And if California Highway Patrol did not come out, just exactly how did offic Seguzman take Stanley's statement. We actually do believe to office a goozman did come out, but for how long and whoever else came mount that is unknown to us from the incident report, Officer Guzman states, quote. On September ninth, twenty twenty three, at approximately twenty one forty seven hours, I was dispatched to a call of a vehicle located in the Sacramento River. I responded from the California Highway Patrol South Sacramento area office and arrived on scene at approximately twenty two to twenty one hours. Upon my arrival, fire personnel advised me they were unable to locate vehicle number one. The Ford. Vehicle number one was ultimately located on September thirteenth, twenty twenty three, submerged in the Sacramento River, and the crash was determined to be a solo vehicle crash which resulted in fatal injuries. They were unable to locate the vehicle because nobody was on the water. Of course, the vehicles now sitting on the bottom of the Sacramento River. The entry point was verified by an eyewitness confirmation that the car's headlights were on. Nobody was allegedly around the night was quiet. How did they figure the car rolled into the water and rolled from a complete stop without any visual confirmation anybody was in front of the vehicle? How long was all for seguzmin on the scene? And is that time framed protocol? The first statement was taken from Stanley on September night, twenty twenty three. It's extremely short. It's a very short statement, nothing like the very detailed and relaid play by play of the September twelfth statement. The next officer took from Stanley via the phone. Why wasn't anybody at the water on September tenth. Where was everybody recall the dispatch audio from September ninth, twenty twenty three, if. Only nine to nine a device that their marine sergeant will be checking in the morning. There is no documentation that any single law enforcement or fire personnel went to the river on September tenth, twenty twenty three. Why did Jeff's car go into the water on September ninth? And it wasn't until September eleventh that a dive team would come out find Jeff's car, retrieve the license plate, and flag it with a buoye And then that same morning, on September eleventh, Jeff's family would file a police report connecting the dots to the overheard scanner, crash report and Jeff's disappearance. But what police scanner. When Jeff's family and friends frantically search for Jeff, a rumor begins to spread that a mother of one of the bars Jeff was at on September ninth heard on a police scanner that a white Sedan went into the water that evening. Now recall this is a very small and tight knit community with deep family roots, so word travels quickly. Is this rumor true. Well, we don't know. But what we do know is this an alleged friend of Jeff's took his own boat and used his own sonar equipment to search for Jeff's car himself on September eleventh. We reached out to him and we did receive a response. I guess. Twenty second, twenty twenty five, two thirty eight pm Central, Jeweles Hi, mister name redacted. This is the producer working alongside the Anderson family on Jeff's story, and I was hoping I could ask you to consider chatting. I've been told you and Jeff were very close and also you went to search for him yourself. I'd like to include that in the podcast, as it helps show Jeff's friendships. August twenty second, twenty twenty five, four fifty pm Central, mister name redacted. Yes, that's fine. I was good friends with Jeff and I saw him almost every day because he worked the Mosquito Company and was always out here on the dairy dispray and come bs with me and my dad Jewles. So sorry for your loss of Jeff. Thank you. Is there a time Thursday we can do your interview? I send a link to the video recording, but I only use audio. You just need havedphones in a quiet, non echoe place to chat. August thirtieth, twenty twenty five, eleven thirty four am, Central jeweles Hey, name redacted. Can we meet tomorrow or Monday? I use stream lard zoom. March twenty first, twenty twenty six, five sixteen pm, Central jewles Hey, name redacted. One last attempt to connect with you. We would love to hear about your experience searching for Jeff yourself and how you knew to look for him. There there's a hole in the story you can help us fill. Thank you, and as a publishing date we have yet to hear back. Of course, I also made a novice mistake. I first used the words chat, then I referred to it as an interview. Did I spook him and if so, why or does he simply wish to not relive the traumatic event, which we do respect. But once someone agrees to talk, we like to be thorough and follow up. However, we will not attempt to contact this individual again. We heard him as loud as the quiet and the non response could be. Once Jeff missed work on the morning of September eleventh, twenty twenty three, a whirlwind of events would begin to unfold, and, in true Delta fashion, the news spread quickly. Jeff's family files the missing per person's report for him. Jeff's lifelong friends and neighbors, brothers Carl and Jason, leap into action to help Jeff's family. Familiar with fire departments, as they come from a fire family, they know how to pick up the phone and call firehouses directly. After speaking with the Walnut Grove Fire chief about a missing person and inquiring if there were any reports of any accidents, the chief informs Jeff's neighbor that he then had to hang up and call the sheriff. Now, this call is referenced in the dispatch notes as being logged on September eleventh, twenty twenty three, at eleven twenty one a m. We know from the dispatch logs that the Sacramento Sheriff and the Sacramento Fire Department were going back and forth with who was going to continue the marine detail. Jurisdiction confusion is nothing new to this area. Tiny jurisdictions exist in such small spaces. Could it have been this confusion and lack of a clear leader that caused Jeff to sit at the bottom of the river for four days? Did the other agency think the other would handle it? When just friends and family arrive on the scene September eleventh, the eyewitnesses walk across the street from their home and greet the spectators and it's then according to signed statements we have acquired that witness number one, Stanley begins to tell the gathering group of concerned family and friends the first of many different versions of what happened to evenings prior on September ninth, twenty twenty three. You're going to want to hear this next time on secrets beyond the Sacramento River. Five Vote any picular engine anyone can firm respond to river road? Important? Do you have an incident description or updated location as for where we should be heading to be able to get some type of recovery team out here? Oh yeah, clear the scene and that SHAREFF handle it from for their rescue. Three four having anyone hundred clarty nine one have to handle the rescue, NIMN devised that their marine target will be checking in the morning. Give ivala unable to locate vehicle and had opatent either. Secrets. Beyond the Sacramento River is produced by Fireeyes Media LLC co founders Gen Rivera and Jules Thorpe. Jules Thorpe was lead investigator. Script was written by Jules Thorpe. Jhen Rivera was Master editor and master audio engineer. Your hosts are Gen Rivera and Jules Thorpe, Fire Eyes Media,