Chapter 8: After March 25th, 2004...

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[00:00:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Small Towns Talk, and we've been listening.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm your host, Jules Thorpe, an independent investigative podcaster living in the same town.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Jennifer and Adriana Wicks went missing from in 2004.

[00:00:32] [SPEAKER_09]: This is Missing in Hush Town, Season 1, Chapter 8, after March 25th, 2004.

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's go.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_09]: The following chapter is going to take you through the days immediately following March 25th, 2004

[00:01:22] [SPEAKER_09]: and into the desperate efforts of the Wicks warriors to bring their girls home.

[00:01:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Kathy last spoke with her daughter, Jennifer, March 24th.

[00:01:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Recall that Kathy heard arguing in the background,

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_09]: and Jennifer shared how uncomfortable she was in the Benton home.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_09]: So when Friday afternoon rolls around,

[00:01:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Kathy just hasn't heard yet from Jennifer.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_09]: She's not too worried yet as they did speak mostly daily.

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Kathy herself has to work a full shift of work,

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_09]: and it's not until Jennifer's granny, Juanita Wicks, affectionately known as Granny Wicks,

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_09]: calls Kathy and tells Kathy that something doesn't feel right and something is wrong.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_09]: She can't get in touch with Jennifer.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Recall that Granny Wicks is the one who took Jennifer and Adriana to the pediatrician.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So she was very aware of Adriana's medical diagnosis of vaginitis.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Could this be a contributing factor to the panic the family felt so quickly?

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And what about Aunt Lisa?

[00:02:21] [SPEAKER_09]: She knew that she had told Jennifer she had a place to go to, a place to be safe.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_09]: So it wouldn't make sense that Jennifer wouldn't show up anywhere,

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_09]: especially not a home where she was welcomed, had a key, and had access to at any time of the day.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's roll back a few episodes and piece some things together.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Number one, March 24th, 2004.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Jennifer calls her mother Kathy at night from inside the Benton home and she sounds distressed.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_09]: There's fighting in the background.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Jennifer tells her mom that Joey's dad, Joe, is typically kinder to her

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_09]: and even he's being aggressive to her that night and exploding.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_09]: And recall that Cindy Benton threw the girls dinner out the back door

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_09]: so they could quote, eat like dogs.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Number two, the next day, March 25th, 2004 on a phone call from inside the Benton home

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_09]: in the afternoon with her father, Michael Wicks, Jennifer told him that she was scared of Cindy,

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_09]: that she was acting weird.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Michael hears a voice in the background of their call and hears Jennifer tell someone

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_09]: she's on the phone with her dad, which this is odd since as we'll discuss in a moment,

[00:03:29] [SPEAKER_09]: the Bentons claim nobody was home that morning or afternoon except Jennifer and Adriana.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_09]: So who was she talking to?

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_09]: And number three, March 25th, 2004.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Later that afternoon her last phone call was to her Aunt Lisa.

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Recall Aunt Lisa took the girls to the emergency room at Northcrest Hospital just two days prior.

[00:03:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Aunt Lisa tells her to come stay with her and she has a key outside and to come whenever.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Now that Michael Wicks, his mother Juanita Wicks,

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_09]: AKA Granny Wicks, Kathy and her sister, Aunt Lisa are all communicating

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_09]: and putting the timeline together.

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Alarms go off.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_05]: On March 25th, the night Jennifer went missing.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_05]: I had my boyfriend over.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_05]: I think we were laying in the living room watching TV.

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't really remember much.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_05]: I remember my mom being on the phone.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not really paying attention to mom, but I could hear her voice go frantic.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_05]: What do you mean?

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, you hadn't heard from her like, you know, just cut my mom kind of freaking out like her tone of voice changed.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_05]: My mom hangs up and she's like, Jennifer's missing.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_05]: We have to go find her.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, let's go.

[00:04:53] [SPEAKER_05]: So my boyfriend went home.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_05]: I jumped in the car with my mom and I remember, I don't remember where all we went, but I remember we were out for quite a while looking everywhere just at anybody who would know her any friends.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_05]: Anyone we would knock on the door ask it when the last time they've seen her and nothing.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_05]: We just kept coming up at a dead end.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_05]: I've been a drive to the Benton home.

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't remember if we drove to the Benton home.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_05]: I vaguely remember me calling Joey, but I don't really remember exactly what was said.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_05]: But I remember calling him that evening.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_05]: I just can't recall what our conversation was.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_05]: So I remember I spoke to him.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if we drove to the Benton home or not.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_05]: I do remember Joey saying they had gotten in an argument.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_05]: I can't really, really remember much more than that.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_05]: I just remember like me and mom panicking and us driving all around town just anywhere we could think of to try to locate her and find her.

[00:06:11] [SPEAKER_05]: And we just kept coming up at a dead end.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_05]: Do you know who told, who called your mom about her missing?

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_05]: No, I can't remember.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_05]: I almost feel like it had to have been either Jennifer's grandmother.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_05]: That's who I want to say first.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Juanita.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_05]: Juanita, Granny Wicks is what she called her.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_05]: So I either want to say her or it would have been my Aunt Lisa, I think one of those probably.

[00:06:44] [SPEAKER_05]: But then I feel like I just remember we came home and I think that night we filed a police report and this may have been.

[00:06:52] [SPEAKER_05]: I'd have to go back.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_05]: You might know that evening if it was like a Friday night because I remember we filed a police report and they literally just threw the file on the desk until next week.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_05]: And that's always been an issue.

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like anyone will tell you in the first 48 hours are the most crucial to find a missing person.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_05]: And I think at the time they looked at it as she's a grown woman.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_05]: They just gotten a fight.

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_05]: She's 21.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_05]: She can take her baby anywhere she wants to go and doesn't have to tell a soul.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_05]: Maybe she just needs some, you know, space or breathing time.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_05]: You know, we'll pick this back up next week.

[00:07:37] [SPEAKER_05]: So I don't think they, I think they considered her just running off, not running off, but just to take a breather from an argument, you know, and she could just do whatever she wanted because she's a grown up and she can.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_05]: With her daughter, but we knew that's not what happened.

[00:07:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Friday. This is a Friday, 2004. Joey goes to work and he arrives home early in the afternoon or late morning hour.

[00:08:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And after getting a ride home from a coworker and former friend, now it was either Jeffrey, his former best friend and Jennifer's cousin or Nolan Rye.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Joey answered a phone call from a frantic Heather looking for her sister.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Heather asked Joey where Jennifer is. He tells her that they got into a fight and broke up.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Joey and Jennifer had previously made plans to host a bonfire on that Benton property on Friday night.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, although Jennifer allegedly went to go be with other friends, Joey still goes ahead and has this bonfire.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_09]: In fact, you guys, it's a couple's bonfire.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_09]: So there are two other couples with Joey being the only one that night without a significant other.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_09]: So this made it very obvious that Jennifer was missing.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Joey's best friend at the time recalls, he's Aunt Lisa's son.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_09]: He asked Joey, Hey, where's Jennifer?

[00:09:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And Joey responds that she is out of friends house.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_09]: He thinks it was a couple named Helga and Jerry Jackson.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Now throughout the years there has been a lot of speculation about this bonfire.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_09]: So much that people speculate that something nefarious was occurring in the fire.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Annoyingly to the other couples in attendance, that should be noted.

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_09]: It has been confirmed that this bonfire was planned though well before March 25th, 2004.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And it was always planned as a couple's night.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Saturday, March 27th, 2004.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_09]: A desperate Kathy finally gets in touch with the Jackson's.

[00:09:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Remember Helga Jackson was the one who Jennifer was friends with through a job she previously had.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's who Joey said she went to stay with when she left Joey the night before.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_09]: So Saturday, March 27th, 2004.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_09]: A desperate mother Kathy finally gets in touch with the Jackson's.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_09]: And they immediately deny seeing Jennifer by saying quote,

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_09]: if that's what he told you something is very wrong, we haven't seen her since November end quote.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Kathy makes the decision to file a missing persons report for Jennifer and Adriana.

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_09]: This is out of character for her daughter and her mother's intuition told her to act immediately and with urgency.

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_09]: The Robertson County Sheriff's Office agreed to do a welfare check.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Per the family's urging this is when the official police statements occur.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_09]: I wish I could report that Joey and his family welcomed the Robertson County Sheriff's Office into their home,

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_09]: but they did not. In fact, they returned away by Joey who said his parents were not home and to return with a search warrant.

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_09]: All they could do was take an initial statement and this is when Joey changes his story from what he told the Wicks family.

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_09]: The Sheriff's Department puts out a be on the lookout a bolo for the girls but appear to lack urgency.

[00:10:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It's been speculated throughout the years that this was because they believed Jennifer was an adult and can do as she pleased.

[00:11:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Other people speculate that the Benton's had connections with the Robertson County Sheriff's Office.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Either way, did the Robertson County Sheriff's Office ignore the red flags and the desperate pleas that the family tried to tell them about Jennifer and Joey's relationship?

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Was it enough to deem her endangered?

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_09]: While the 10 o'clock news on March 27th comes and goes, Kathy then calls the Robertson County Sheriff's Office demanding to know why the department failed to circulate Jennifer and Adriana's photos to the news stations.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_09]: In the police records written by Deputy Mike Campbell, Kathy quote stated that she couldn't understand it would not let this rest end quote.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_09]: And she has not rested a day since then.

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Nor will she.

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_09]: A mother's 20 year battle to find her daughter and her granddaughter still continues to this day behind the scenes in every breath she takes.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Kathy and her sister, Aunt Lisa exchange information gathered and then the worries sets in and shifts into overdrive.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_09]: They could not believe Jennifer and Adriana were missing.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Something happened to them or somebody took them.

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_09]: On Monday, March 29th, responding officer Mike Campbell and his partner Officer Gray arrive at Kathy's home.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_09]: And as Mike Campbell had stated earlier, he will never forget the look on Kathy's face.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Now recall Joey had already given this statement about the refund check and how Jennifer stopped by his house.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_09]: He already gave that statement to police so it's already on record.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_09]: After this meeting, the officers head to the Benton home.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And this is where Joey's stories of where the girls are continue to change multiple times.

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And note, Joey says Jennifer came by Friday to get the car seat and her $500 check.

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_09]: But Deputy Campbell noted that the car seat was in the home when he was there.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Here is Kathy recalling the extent of which she has gone to try to bring her baby and their baby's baby back home.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_03]: In the beginning,

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I would turn my car around in the middle of the road because I saw someone walking down the road that had long black hair and about the same height as Jennifer.

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I've went, I was sitting at a Sonic and Bellevue one day and across the way there was a girl in a car that to me looked like Jennifer.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And I got out to go over closer and get a closer look and I guess she thought I was crazy.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_03]: But I've done a whole lot of things, you know, I've followed people.

[00:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I've worn wigs and sunglasses and rented cars.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I needed to know where certain people lived and worked.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And so if I could pinpoint them in a certain place where I could follow them,

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I would rent a car and put a wig on and put sunglasses or hat or something on where I couldn't be recognized.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I would follow them to find out where they worked or to find out where they lived, you know, things like that.

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Joey's sister was a stripper at the time Jennifer disappeared and I knew that.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_03]: So was I concerned that Jennifer got caught up in the sex trade?

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course I was even though, like I said, Jennifer was very modest and I couldn't see that happening.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_03]: But you just never know what can happen to people and especially with the with the sex trade and human trafficking and stuff.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So I needed to know where she worked.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So I've been bounced out of strip clubs when I was recognized.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been asked to leave.

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I've, you know, tried my best to look like I look like I belong there, but I guess I didn't do good enough in that.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I got bounced out.

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Jennifer had a boyfriend at one time before she had met Joey who lived in Indiana and I went to his home.

[00:15:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I followed him for almost two days.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Where did he go?

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Who did he see?

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_03]: To the bars he went to, to a friend's house.

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I went to bad part of Indianapolis following him in the middle of the night.

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Picked up his garbage from the curb in the middle of the night on garbage day to see if it had anything in that garbage that would indicate that there was a child there.

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_03]: The first year was absolutely crazy.

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I seen a psychic named Carol Payt on the Larry King show one night and she lived in Little Rock, Arkansas.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I contacted her and I went to see her twice.

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_03]: The first time she told me Jennifer was live in Wellan and a little town, some little town in Missouri and it was called white something, but she just couldn't get the rest of it.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was two words.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_03]: The first word was white.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I ran into Van and me and my mom and my sister and Jennifer's other grandmother, Miss Weeks.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_03]: With every white something Missouri town that we could find, we traveled around Missouri, putting up flyers, going into Walmarts and going back into the baby department where she might have to go in to buy diapers or something in that town

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and show in their picture to the workers there and go into the local police departments and things like that.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, rumors would come in about certain things or certain people in certain places.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And I would go and just hide out, you know, in a cornfield on, you know, if there was a place to pull my car up in between the cornfield where I could still see if headlights came or went from a certain house or something.

[00:17:34] [SPEAKER_03]: I would sit there all night long and and watch and wait to see what kind of activity went on.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: If I seen anybody who looked like Jennifer come or go, I actually crawled on my belly because there wasn't nowhere to part to get to one that was way back off the road.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I just crawled on my belly and laid in the cornfield and watched that place in the night.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_03]: There's there's just been a lot of those type things, you know, I'd have, I remember I was at work one day after I was finally able to go back to work and a guy called me and said that he had, he had seen Jennifer and Adriana's picture in a truck stop.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: It's down toward Chattanooga somewhere in some little town.

[00:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, I know her and I dated her and her name is Jennifer.

[00:18:31] [SPEAKER_03]: And I actually lived with her for two months and her name is Jennifer and her daughter's name is Adriana.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I know this is them.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I went there.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_03]: He told me he could tell me exactly what house they were in and everything.

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_03]: So I went there and call the local law enforcement and told them while I was there, I decided not.

[00:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I decided that if that wasn't back Jennifer, then she was indeed hiding and I didn't want to make her afraid.

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I asked the police to come over and go to the door and find out if it was her.

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And they told me to stay in the car, but I didn't.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I went and stood at the edge of the house.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They went to the back door and as soon as the young lady came to the door and I heard her voice, I knew it wasn't Jennifer.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I just broke down.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That was me and my mom and I just knew I just knew it was going to be her and.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_03]: And mom drove me home and that was into that.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I mean it's just been there's never there's never really been any sightings of her other than that.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so that got me really excited and I thought maybe it was her.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, you know, my gut told me from day one that something was wrong and I never believed Jennifer ran away.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_03]: But my hope told me that she did.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I would just look for her wherever I could.

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[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to talk about the search and rescue.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We've done the fire protection, you know, in the normal everyday stuff.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_02]: But that's something that we really specialized in was the search.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Once upon a time, I think it was not long before Jennifer and Adriana came up missing.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_02]: But before that, we were really big in with the search dogs and stuff.

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I had a lot of success.

[00:25:40] [SPEAKER_02]: We put a lot of hard work and training in with the dogs.

[00:25:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And we went all over the country and stuff, training.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_02]: So we got a lot of connections in the dog world, you know, in the search and rescue dogs and stuff all over.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_02]: And that was one thing that when the family came to me, I was wanting to do a search later on.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I had a lot of resources where I could pull in and, you know, I just hated it.

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_02]: We weren't able to do that search.

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_02]: The family had always been pushing that there was never a real search done over the property.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_02]: And so they came to me and wanted to do a search.

[00:26:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, actually, this is officially through the department.

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_02]: I've never done anything privately.

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_02]: Everything's always been, you know, through the department and, you know, by the walls and everything.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_02]: So when she came to me, I wanted to do a search and we talked about it and stuff.

[00:26:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, you know, I can't just go do a search, you know, because I have to have permission from the landowners, you know, to do a search.

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't talk because I grew up in that community, in the Monsaple community.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I was a life man out there, you know, and I knew the goodness personally, you know.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_02]: We just go, you know, we just go to the school bus together.

[00:27:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, it was a small community. Everybody knew everybody, you know.

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_02]: And we just spent some time like that, get together in different things, you know, because we were all kids, you know, we were young at that time.

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_02]: We spent a little time over there, you know, and we had some get-together, some cookouts and different things.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_02]: All the kids were playing ball, you know, different things we had that went on over there.

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_02]: And just kids in the community play them, you know.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_02]: And we knew them all.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, the day was then where there were different people than I guess what they are now from what I understand.

[00:27:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't really remember, you know, like, you know, that goes in there for all these families and stuff right now.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_02]: And I would never, I never seen nothing like it.

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_02]: And excuse me, we wouldn't have been allowed to be around, you know, anything like that if it was going on back then too.

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_02]: But I went and talked to the grandmother.

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the biggest part of her whole property there, you know.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_02]: I went and a few days later, and I told her that I would, before the search, you know, I got to hear everything together.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And plan the search, you know, and get all my resources gathered up.

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And I would come back, you know, right before we'd done the search, you know, and bring, you know, get written permission,

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_02]: how I'd be able to release them, all that kind of stuff, you know, for everybody.

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And we did the search.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So it went on, I don't know, maybe a read or something like that.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, P.J. A. was or something.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_02]: I gave him, I gave him a call.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_02]: My pa, he was off in dispatch and they wanted me to call him.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_02]: So I called him and I said, hey, the sheriff wants to talk to you, you know, speak with you.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, okay.

[00:29:11] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I gave him a call and he was asking the guys in the neighborhood to come to his office, you know, read the end.

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_02]: And I said, yeah, I'm available.

[00:29:19] [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be read better.

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_02]: And I got up to the sheriff's office and go in the sheriff's office.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Which sheriff was this?

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_02]: It was Bowlinger.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_02]: But I went in Bowlinger's office and he said, what's this idea about the search?

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I said, whatever the problem, we came to him, you know, doing the search.

[00:29:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And we agreed to notify the rep him out and, you know, do a search.

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_02]: And I got permission from Miss Benton, you know, and never serve other people around the area.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, obviously that's fine.

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_02]: I can serve that place too, you know, whatever.

[00:30:06] [SPEAKER_02]: So, but he said, well, there's not going to be a search.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Because then the best thing you can do is stay away from the Benton's or you can start a performance nest.

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_02]: And you just need to stay clear of the Benton's and, you know, I was like, well, I got permission to do a search.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he goes, well, there's not going to be a search.

[00:30:29] [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, I'm sure you'll listen to this.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_02]: And he dialed his voicemail on his phone, you know, and posted it on speaker.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And there was a voicemail from Ramison Joe that was like in a tire.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just burned off about, you know, this talk of the search.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And if there wasn't going to be no search, you know, and stay away from the rest of the room, you know, everyone had nice awareness.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_02]: And I guess if I don't have permission, you know, no, but I can't do a search.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, that's not a simple, but, you know, I told him, I said, you know, the tone of his voice and the way he sounded, you know, was very high-rate.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And I told him, I said, that sounds like I had guilt in that, you know, just the way he sounded.

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and that.

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's like, y'all, if y'all have got him through the threat that he's possibly guilty of something and have something as defensive as he was about this, you know, I don't know what to...

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, that was him, but, you know, and sadly, you know, we never got to do anything.

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's just kind of the end of all that, you know.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_02]: But I'd talked to Kathy, you know, on and off, you know, a few different times, you know, in that time period, you know, and she kind of...

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_02]: She was really desperate for help, and I felt really, really bad, you know, that I couldn't provide what I was able to provide, you know.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_02]: So it was kind of a...

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_02]: It was a real bummer for all of us, you know.

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_02]: And like I said, when I talked to Miss Benton, you know, she was, you know, we knew each other for years and years, you know, and stuff.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're actually strangers, you know.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_02]: And I had a good long talk with Miss Benton, you know, and she was talking about, you know, how much, how stressful this has all been for her family and all this stuff,

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_02]: and that there's been searches, and I said, well, the family's always argued that there's never been a proper search, you know, but there was never a big search.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_02]: There was, you know, just whatever activity, you know, for law enforcement and stuff they've done here and there, you know, in the beginning of the case, I guess you'd say.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_02]: And there was never a...we were in big search, you know, that really calmed the whole thing that I knew of, or the family knew of, apparently.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_02]: And we just hoping that we could, you know, give that closure, you know, to everybody.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if there was nothing there, then that would be good, you know, for the beings, you know, or whatever.

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_02]: It would be...it was up to case, you know, you would know which direction to maybe look a little better, you know, and it wouldn't be no...

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and I answered questions, you know.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I talked to Miss Binn for a while, and she was like, we're just so stressed, you know, and they're being accused of all this horrible stuff,

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_02]: and, you know, she got asked, you know, after real...you know, because their argument is that there's never been a real search,

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_02]: and if we can do a real search, then they don't have an argument no more.

[00:34:01] [SPEAKER_02]: And she goes, you know what? That really makes a lot of sense. And that's when she came around, you know, and she was like, yeah, but I think that would be fine, you know.

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's what gives me permission to do a search, you know, and then I could see if he'd ever be sorry for the week or whatever it was, you know,

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_02]: Joe calls, um, Sheriff, you know, and Ray's and Kane about, you know, this possibility of a search,

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_02]: and that was the end of all of it, you know, for me, you know, and being able to do anything to help.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I had done...I had a lot of resources I had lined up, you know, and was...

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_02]: I had some of the best bags that...that's really the best bags that were ran, that were going to stay at that time.

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_02]: You think that would work?

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_02]: We had both. We had...we had...we had...we had a little group.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_02]: So anything you could want in the bag was we had different groups of bags that were specialized in different types, you know, different things.

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_02]: And so I mean, it was the best of the best, you know, and that's all we've ever used, you know, when it comes to bag work.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_02]: Um, when it's very high standard, when it comes to dogs.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_07]: So...

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Excellent. Were you with when you're for the Fire Squad?

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was with the Rescue Squad. Yeah, Roberts and Kane.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_02]: The Rescue Squad.

[00:35:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Roberts and Kane? Okay.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah. And so being a Rescue Squad, the Rescue Squad is a statewide organization, the Tennessee Association Rescue Squad.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you have that the Rescue Squad in pretty much every county, you know, and then collectively, you know, everybody's resources was available to everybody.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_02]: So we could have like a call out, you know, and we had different regions in the state so I couldn't throw up.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_02]: We was in region three. So we...you know, I hadn't read off for bad.

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_02]: I had, you know, I could do a region three call out and pull a massive amount of resources over.

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_02]: If it come through, I could do like a statewide call out or multiple regions, you know, whatever.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So I had basically had the whole state of my dispel group needed it, you know.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the best of the best in everything, you know, is available through TARS basically in the state.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_02]: So there are search and rescue and grandings and all kinds of training, you know.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big, strong organization, you know.

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just sad that we didn't get to have that search and give that closure, you know, at least on that part of it, you know.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And whether people would pull a massive amount of resources for the weeks finally or for the bintons, you know, if they were for the instant, then that would just help, you know, the accusations against them.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where that's seen, you know.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Now you said you grew up in the O'Reilly's Chapel area and you knew the Benton family.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Did Sheriff Bowlinger also grow up in the same area as y'all?

[00:37:05] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Sheriff Bowlinger, he lived basically in the O'Reilly's Chapel community.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_02]: He was down the road.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_02]: That's where he lived, which is just a few miles down the road honestly, you know, from the heart of the Chapel area and the church area instead.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we all grew up in that area.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So he would know Joe from growing up in Joe's family?

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say so.

[00:37:39] [SPEAKER_02]: I can't speak for him, but of course in those days everybody knew everybody, you know, especially in the community.

[00:37:49] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so it was a small tight-knit community, you know.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely. Okay.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm trying to think of where, oh, you've been great.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I appreciate it.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_07]: We have a full section on the searches and obviously we don't know what we don't know at the, you know, Sheriff Seth Dillon and PBI, what they don't share.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I did come across, kind of original news article when I went to the archives yesterday that talked about the searches done with cadaver dogs from Nashville and for families shaking their heads saying that that was not actually true.

[00:38:43] [SPEAKER_07]: That was not cadaver dogs, but...

[00:38:47] [SPEAKER_02]: I knew though, I had heard, you know, I'd say I wouldn't, I asked the, you know, we didn't have permission to just sort of come out and I didn't think I was in the loop or anything like that.

[00:38:59] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what was going on, but I did hear that different times that the Sheriff's Office had a baldy or two or something come out and they'd done a little bit of searching or something at different times.

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_02]: I had no idea of anything of it, you know, just what I hear.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have to say, I think there was one guy in Nashville, I can't remember his name.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And he was a pretty repable, you know, he had a good dog and I don't know if you all have interviewed or talked to him or not, but I can't remember his name at all.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_02]: But we've done some work with him in the past on different, you know, different scenes and stuff, different searches.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_02]: And then we've done some training together. He was a real good dog, you know, he's what he had.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I reached out to some of the searches and a lot of them don't talk because they still don't open case and they're still with their...

[00:40:09] [SPEAKER_07]: I respect that. We have some paperwork, I know they've got to do that.

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And did you know Bennett? That worked for West Browborkton County Sheriff?

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_02]: Who's that?

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Bennett.

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_02]: Detective Bennett?

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Do you know was he around, y'all were you guys around the same age going up to go around the same community?

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Bennett. Now, Bennett lived...he was up on the other end of the county is what he lived.

[00:40:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_02]: He was a detective for most of my life, you know. He was up there for a long time.

[00:41:00] [SPEAKER_02]: He was up there to generally work with him a lot over the years.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_07]: His name just comes up on the...I think he's on the original case. Okay.

[00:41:11] [SPEAKER_07]: All right. There are questions I won't ask.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_07]: But there are some but you could say pass and no, I won't push that. Okay.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_07]: That's curiosity over the years and what information you know do you feel like this case should have been solved already?

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Can you repeat that?

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. Do you feel like this case should have been solved already? Is it solvable?

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Absolutely.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, really, I really do. And I can feel that this has been 20 years and there's a lot of detail I don't remember, you know, time frames, you know, and stuff that gets cloudy with...

[00:41:59] [SPEAKER_02]: But the way I remember it seems like right off the bat things kind of went sideways when they reported missing in the initial response, you know, when the officers...

[00:42:15] [SPEAKER_02]: There was rumors of, I guess, improper work done. You know, there may have been a lot of police work.

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_02]: There were some officers that think that were fired.

[00:42:30] [SPEAKER_02]: And it was all just kind of...it started off as a mess. You know, it was kind of a rast to get, you know.

[00:42:36] [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that might have hurt the investigations on, you know, and finding them.

[00:42:44] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know the detail of what happened but it started off. I know some officers got fired for whatever reasons.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_02]: And then things are like, you know, it's almost like it was true. There was a missing person, you know, kind of thing at first. It seems like from what I remember, you know.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing just took a long time for them to come out and, you know, pacify it, you know. It's like a homicide or whatever, you know.

[00:43:21] [SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of rumors, you know. The whole time it was all about...they ran away or they were in witness protection.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_02]: There was just so much stuff constantly, you know. And I don't remember any of this going for them.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_02]: It's just rumors and stuff that I was hearing, you know. And it's just sad, you know, that the things didn't get after a good start, you know.

[00:43:46] [SPEAKER_02]: And bringing closure for the family, you know, and stuff.

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Why do you think people have not been as open in the past to talk about this, you know, out loud and in the community?

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think there's a lot of confusion. Like I said, there was rumors going around, you know, that they ran away.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_02]: All those different rumors, you know, that they would be back, you know, or they'd show up.

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_02]: Now that it really made sense to me, but that's kind of the way it seemed like at first, you know.

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_02]: I think the investigation was kind of leaning towards, you know, a misimposent type thing, you know, that's not really a criminal, you know, kind of case is what it seemed like, you know, at first.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's just kind of, you know, and I understand, you know, it happens. It happens that there are, you know, people run around and do something.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_02]: But it was the whole situation that we're going for, you know, and then speaking with the family and everything, you know, and what didn't just disappear, it was just kind of alarming, you know, like it was.

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_02]: So I know that I heard that Jennifer talked to her family, you know, often, you know, and different things. And then just suddenly vanished, you know.

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_02]: So it's kind of a regular, it's a me that something's not right, you know, and because the last thing you want to do is mislead a search for an investigation, you know.

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_02]: So you have to be real careful on your dog, your dog work and, you know, a search dog can really, especially in this person, a search dog can really steer, you know, the search in the wrong direction, you know.

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're any careful, so that's happened, you know, in the past, you know, we've had, we've come in behind, we've come in behind other dogs that didn't make a fire and we made a fire in 30 minutes.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, so I mean it, I mean, it does, and you can't, you know, some dogs on hand or have good dogs and bad dogs.

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, so that is like the kind of backlit, you know, one dog was saying with multiple dogs if we could, you know, and stuff like that.

[00:46:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So, right.

[00:46:22] [SPEAKER_02]: And when you get multiple dogs, especially when you got multiple dogs, and especially if these dogs have any, any sort of, you know, fines, you know, and stuff like that, if they're proven dogs, you know, that's, that's very,

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_02]: you can put a lot of trust in them.

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know, if multiple dogs say the same thing then I would probably take what they say to the bank just for me, you know, it was a bad dog.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's, it's, it's dogs just don't lie.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Buddy Mitchell is a retired Davidson County hostage negotiator who has worked pro bono for the Wix family since 2013.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_09]: When the case was switched from a missing person's case to a homicide.

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_09]: It's unclear the exact reasoning for the change, but many of the family members believe it's because there has been zero evidence of a live activity with bank accounts, phone records, social security numbers, etc.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And some people also speculate it's because that's when the sheriff changed.

[00:47:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I sat down with Buddy and Casey and the other searches conducted over the years.

[00:47:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of funny out my 34 career, I never would accept any awards because I thought I was supposed to be doing that as police.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I was a negotiator for 30 years, you know, and I would give my other negotiators put them in for war, but I just don't.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_01]: When they close the lid it don't matter what's on your chest.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Name is Buddy Mitchell.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the Metro Nashville Police Department Sergeant.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I was there for 34 years.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I took when I retired, I took a year off and then another friend that I worked with Stan Mollig got me to start a PI company.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And he knew the Wix family and introduced me and that's how I got connected.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing PI since 2010.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever, 14 years and I just do criminal investigation.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I have a company ABC investigative services and we do.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_01]: That's all we do is criminal investigation on both sides for the prosecution and for the defense and been involved in this.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I laid off a couple of times when the police department was doing some things and said, we need you to back off.

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'd back off until they told me that it was okay to go back to do investigation.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_01]: I got to talking to the father bitten and he would give us information.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_01]: The great grandfather.

[00:49:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And he gave us permission.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_01]: He said, you can come and search.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you won't.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I actually built up a good rapport with him myself and one of my PIs Leonard Keelers that's working with me went over.

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I knocked on the door and the grandson came and opened the door and I walked in and he got mad because he said,

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: well, you're not going to do it.

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Your family just up and don't come on in.

[00:49:37] [SPEAKER_01]: You can do any searches.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll sign anything.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And so which he did, he signed a form.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So we was able to the family and my mom did as well.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, she talked to major Jones too and and said, you know, you are not going to come.

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and he's like, well, it's not a sanctioned search.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_06]: This isn't a search that we're performing.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_06]: It's a private party search.

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's like, you got to have permission.

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_06]: We're like, we do.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_06]: We have a form signed.

[00:50:09] [SPEAKER_06]: We were invited and have a form signed and they were like, no, and we even to buddy's point as far as safety, you know, it's a hostile situation.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_06]: We're like, can you at least be here to like, can someone, can you send a patrolman or something just to be present?

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And and they didn't now they did end up showing up though, which we can get into.

[00:50:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, before they showed up myself and P.I., my other P.I., Leonard Keeler, we was there and is more or less as safety.

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't let any of the dogs go out without one of us being there.

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_01]: During one of the search, I look up and I see Joe Benton, which would be the Joey's father walking down the woods.

[00:51:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, I said, Oh, stop there.

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And I said, we have permission here.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_01]: He said, why are you here?

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have permission.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, yes, I'm I know that the line and I knew it was marked the bounty and he was on the other side.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_01]: I said this from here back, we can search and I and I showed him a piece of paper.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, we have a sign released from your father saying that we can search this.

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And he was not happy.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So he left.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_01]: He later found out that he called the police and the police didn't tell us, but we found out later that he said,

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I have people on my property and I'm going to shoot them.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what we found out later.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_01]: And then it was several sheriff deputy come, I think a lieutenant and a sergeant, several people and they talked to him.

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They talked to us and they left.

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Still, I might add to that she was a little hesitant.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_01]: The person in charge of the dog because we never had this happen before because when we do searches, we always work alongside the police.

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_01]: They was a little hesitant on, like I said, for safety reason doing this.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_01]: But since he was here, they come from out of state.

[00:52:29] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it wouldn't like coming from traveled from many couple different states.

[00:52:34] [SPEAKER_06]: Different dog handlers and whatnot, but they're all part of this one like search and rescue team.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, they were hesitant to go out there and we had permission.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_06]: Joe comes out.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I've shown you the photos that we got that day.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_06]: But apparently either he did or Joey did.

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure who did called into dispatch twice.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_06]: I think there were two calls.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's true.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Major Jones shows up at Grandfather Benton's property that we had permission to be there on.

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_06]: And then Joey pulls up in the driveway right after.

[00:53:15] [SPEAKER_06]: No one knows it's him, but he pulls up in the driveway and he goes into the house and he's trying to get his granddad to revoke.

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, to revoke his permission say, you know that he wants us to leave because any permissible search, you can be there until someone asks you to leave.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_06]: And if they ask you to leave, you have to leave immediately.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_01]: He owned it several acres in the cabin where the cabin was and it's a brick house.

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_06]: So the Benton's Joe and Cindy and Joey's sister, they own six acres.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_06]: So there's one acre where the brick house sits and there's five acres where the cabin is.

[00:53:49] [SPEAKER_06]: And so we did not get to search that.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_06]: No, but the granddad's property goes kind of like right up to Owen's Chapel, kind of like this little slither of property like that, but it's right up to Joe Benton's cabin.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_06]: And so that's where they were back in there whenever when Joe walked out into the woods and we had to pull the teams out.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thanks.

[00:54:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Now the dog, I was there personally observed the dog indicate on one spot.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: So which is a good practice?

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_01]: They pulled that dog out and they put another dog and they even pull the handler out so that handler won't be looking at a certain spot.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So they put another dog in and what actually watched him sniff around and went to the same spot.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The exact same spot.

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_06]: So that was at least three different dogs.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And then they brought the one, another one back the next day just to confirm and it did indicate in the same spot.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Where is the spot?

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_06]: It's back on grandpa granddad Benton's property back there.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And she can explain these dogs are highly trained like they won't indicate on a deer because there was a deer bone.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_01]: We test them.

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I said, I bet he hits on this bone and he went right by it or she couldn't.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't look but went right by it and boom.

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But this exact spot which we later.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I came back the next day of course with the permission from the father with a shovel me and Leonard that didn't work.

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It was in the middle of July.

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And like said, I've had a whole lot of birthdays.

[00:55:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I dug a little hole and I said, I'm going to do something different.

[00:55:34] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to get a bigger shovel actually got a back hole and we went down for five feet.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_01]: And the next day, one day next.

[00:55:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And so grandpa bent.

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_06]: He said, yeah, he said just put everything back the way you found it and you're welcome on my property.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_06]: And so we actually called into the sheriff's department and said, we've had dogs indicate in the spot multiple dogs from this professional search and rescue team.

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_06]: And they without putting kind of like them down at all, they did discredit those dogs that were there that day and said that search dogs are trained on pork chops and so on.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_06]: And they were literally not like my husband was there.

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_06]: They pulled out a case that had a cadaver bone in it.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_06]: And this dude, he said, and we can probably get in touch with him.

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_06]: He said, my dogs only train on cadaver.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_06]: That's it.

[00:56:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Those are the dogs that were hitting in the woods that day.

[00:56:36] [SPEAKER_06]: And so we told the sheriff's department and to buddy's point they said, dig it up.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, anything, let us know.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, if I anything, let us know.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_06]: And we're like, but, but like this could be it.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_06]: This could be evidence like you got and they're like, find it.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_06]: Let us know.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_06]: And let me add this to buddy that it wasn't just the dogs.

[00:56:56] [SPEAKER_06]: That wasn't the only indication we also brought in a gentleman that performs the ground penetrating radar.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_06]: So he came out to that search that day because the dogs kept indicating and so we brought him out and he did his tests.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_06]: I can show it to you.

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_06]: The exact spot of where it was.

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_06]: And he said that this particular spot kind of like what buddy saying it kind of like is runoff for, I can't remember the radius.

[00:57:23] [SPEAKER_06]: That's where I got the information.

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_06]: Like a two mile radius, I think it was.

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_06]: And he was like, so this particular spot, it could be like runoff from another spot.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_06]: So if there's human remains in another, it could be runoff and it's just kind of landing here.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_06]: But this guy, he brings in this machine and he takes this x-ray image and the x-ray image.

[00:57:40] [SPEAKER_06]: He's like, there's an opening.

[00:57:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember how big it was like 12 inches deep and however two feet wide or something like that.

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_06]: And on his recommendation, this person who literally does this for his job puts on this report.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_06]: I recommend to dig it up.

[00:57:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And this lady with the dogs know this gentleman.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I think she is one that gave me his name and number.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_01]: He actually came out that day.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Come in Leonard stayed there until he got there.

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_01]: He drove in from three hours away and he drove in and we watched him do the do the test.

[00:58:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Joe owns that property now.

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_06]: He got it in after his dad, the one that invited us to search passed away and they went through the estate or deal after his passing and Joe got that property.

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I might add that before this search, I don't know if it was a couple of weeks or maybe my month.

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say a couple of weeks he got arrested at his dad's house, the grandfather's house for trespassing because he wanted him to leave and he wouldn't leave so they called the Sheriff's Department.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And they said, well, he's trespassed.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If you tell them he'd not be here.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So they actually arrested him for trespassing.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_01]: So he was not allowed on that property.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, his name is restraining order in order against him.

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_06]: It's one of the charges that are still open today that he's dealing with.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_06]: He had a violation of probation for.

[00:59:12] [SPEAKER_06]: So still happening even after his father's passing.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_06]: It's still open.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, he wasn't supposed to be there.

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_06]: That's why he sent Joey that day.

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Because he couldn't come and he would been arrested for by like this.

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_06]: Now, Major Jones did talk to Joey that day.

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_06]: Joey came out of the house, walked up to us all standing in the driveway.

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Right.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_01]: We have it on video.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_06]: And walks up and he's like, can you come inside?

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And he's like all fidgety.

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's drugs or what maybe he's nervous.

[00:59:49] [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot going on.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_06]: Maybe he's worried we're going to find something.

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure but he like comes up in the driveway and he's like, can you, can you come inside for a minute?

[00:59:57] [SPEAKER_06]: And Major Jones is like, I'll be in in just a minute.

[01:00:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Like I'm out here talking to them right now.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_06]: And then I believe he told him he was like, if you're, if you're trying to get in the middle of this when they have permission, like, like that's not going to happen today.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, and I mean, I do remember that.

[01:00:17] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he did come that day, but after phone calls were made threatening phone calls.

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_06]: So we don't have a lot of details.

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_06]: About these searches because it's all law enforcement's records and documents that we don't have access to.

[01:00:34] [SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, I've met with them in the past and they've told me and confirmed with me that like when the searches were.

[01:00:42] [SPEAKER_06]: And so I have all the dates for them, but I'll try and like pull it out of my memory.

[01:00:46] [SPEAKER_06]: So I know that we reported Jennifer and Adriana missing on Saturday, the 27th.

[01:00:54] [SPEAKER_06]: March 2004.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_06]: And Sunday, it was either Sunday or Monday after that, after the first officer came to do the welfare check for they came back and they did a walk through.

[01:01:06] [SPEAKER_06]: So this is the first search permissible search air quotes that the Sheriff's Department did.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_06]: So they're basically doing a quick walkthrough of the house.

[01:01:16] [SPEAKER_06]: See if Jennifer and Adriana are there.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_06]: Are there any signs of foul play?

[01:01:19] [SPEAKER_06]: Is their literal blood laying on the floor and can we come through and mind you this has been.

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_06]: Three and a half, four days since the last time anyone's talked to Jennifer or seen Jennifer and Adriana.

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_06]: So we're four days after the fact now if there were a puddle of blood, it's gone.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_06]: You know, if there was a table pushed over, it's set back up now that sort of thing so that they run a scent dog.

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_06]: At that time around the property, I don't know where I don't have documentation.

[01:01:58] Sorry, snoring.

[01:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this, I actually talked to the witness because I talked to the lady that did the search from Knoxville, but go ahead.

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_01]: I just want to.

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_06]: Okay. Yeah, buddy has some additional info to obviously add.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_06]: This is just what I've confirmed with law enforcement.

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_06]: So that was the first permission permissible search whenever they come to do the first walkthrough and they run a scent dog, which that's like a scent dog is like, did they walk off into the woods?

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_06]: Did they walk down the road like they're following a scent trail.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_06]: So it's not looking for a cadaver.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_06]: Nothing. There was nothing.

[01:02:44] [SPEAKER_06]: And of course Jennifer and Adriana live there like their scent is there.

[01:02:47] [SPEAKER_06]: So that's very confusing for a dog.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_06]: Like they've walked all over the property.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_06]: They had to walk to and from the barn that they lived in at the time, you know, so as far as I know there was nothing that was found.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_06]: Then there was another search in.

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're jumping a couple years here, but it was 2006 ish.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_06]: I know that they drained a small pond on the property from a tip that they had gotten.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_06]: I've also been told by law enforcement they did a grid search and they invited like Tennessee Highway Patrol.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_06]: And there was something like 80 people out there and they were three feet apart and they were probing into the ground and they brought dogs out that day.

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_06]: So there, that search happened.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know where that was.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it was the granddad's property or if it was the Benton property.

[01:03:36] [SPEAKER_06]: No idea.

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Joe Benton is quoted by the local newspaper, the Robertson County Times saying quote, Kathy expressed her concern that they might be hurt or hiding in the woods.

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_09]: All of our neighbors in name redacted neighborhood let them search and quote the same article goes on to say that quote just to be certain they searched the property a second time three months later using two dogs from the Tennessee Highway Patrol Special Operations Unit.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_09]: According to Joe Benton about 20 deputies accompanying the dogs and the search and quote, what I find curious are the three little words according to Joe.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_09]: We have questions was the house search the interior of the house search recall that when deputy Campbell went to the Benton residence on the 29th he was not permitted to go through any of the rooms in the Benton home.

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_09]: He was allowed to go to the back property that party barn shed the same one where Joey and Jennifer and Adriana had once lived in.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_09]: And Jennifer wanted to move back into immediately, but it was locked.

[01:04:41] [SPEAKER_09]: We don't have access to these search records.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, rightfully so this is an open investigation, but we do have some follow up questions.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_09]: When a dog hit on the girl sent.

[01:04:53] [SPEAKER_09]: If they had been living there.

[01:04:55] [SPEAKER_09]: This is the part we're confused about.

[01:04:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Perhaps they did hit, but the trail wasn't there to follow because there was no trail outside the immediate perimeter of the home.

[01:05:06] [SPEAKER_09]: One particular line doesn't sit right with me you guys and I don't know.

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Is there something more there in this quote.

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_09]: All right, quote since Wicks use the Benton's computer to check her email and their telephone while living with them.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_09]: The family also turned phone records to the police to see if something or someone could assist them in our search and quote.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_09]: So let me break it down.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_09]: My mind immediately goes to wait.

[01:05:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Wait, don't see what is there.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Why don't you check what's not there?

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_09]: There are so many theories about the girls running away, especially by the community and law enforcement at the time which likely may have contributed to the lack of urgency on their part.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Wouldn't there be some sort of indication that she was leaving?

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Search history would surely have answers as to her plan after all according to the Benton she was home alone all day at the house until Joey came home from work later that afternoon.

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_09]: She would surely have a lot of time to look up anything on the computer.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_09]: The absence of these type of searches on the computer would point me, you know in the direction of an endangered adolescent.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Over the years the family has expressed frustration as to why an Amber alert was not administered to Adriana.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_09]: They have often wondered what would have been different had the national alert been delivered to everyone.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_09]: What if the disappearance of the girls was met with extreme diligence within the last 48 hours?

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Recall Jennifer and Adriana's last known communication with anybody outside of the Benton's happened per her phone call to her Aunt Lisa on March 25th.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Now this is per the phone records.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to play some audio that we have about Joey Benton speaking about the Wicks Girls' Disappearance.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Now it's just a few words and the words are this.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_04]: Just let us know you're okay.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Standing in the doorway of his home, his body turns slightly behind the door, his eyes staring blankly forward.

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_09]: He looks caught off guard and not interested in offering any other information.

[01:07:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Let's hear it again.

[01:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: Just let us know you're okay.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_04]: I'm missing both and I would do anything to know where she was at.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Yet not once did he join in a search for the girls.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Not once did Jennifer write him a letter with her feelings after March 25th.

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Something she was so known to do was write to people through any conflict or big feelings.

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_09]: And she just broke up with a man she was going to start having a baby with,

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_09]: with a man she wanted to marry.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_09]: And yet she just leaves and disappears and doesn't have any resolution.

[01:07:54] [SPEAKER_09]: A girl who seeks resolution in any type of conflict.

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Nothing.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_09]: No letters to her family.

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, there have been zero sit down interviews with the Bentons,

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_09]: with anybody in the news or media.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_09]: They have declined to comment for numerous news stations over the years,

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_09]: including a recent dateline request in 2024.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Is it against the law to be apathetic?

[01:08:20] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Is it against the law to be indifferent?

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_09]: But it is suspicious when a young man who loved a little girl so much,

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_09]: he hand carved a wooden rocking horse for her,

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_09]: who helped to take care of her,

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_09]: who loved her mother so much she asked her to marry him,

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_09]: who loved her so much they're planning to start their own family soon.

[01:08:39] [SPEAKER_09]: He's never once seen searching for her.

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I would have liked the chance to sit down face to face with Joey Benton

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_09]: and ask him if after 20 years,

[01:08:50] [SPEAKER_09]: he still hopes that the girls are all right.

[01:10:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Casey Robinson was co-producer,

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_09]: special thanks to John Thorpe, Patrick Robinson, my parents,

[01:10:13] [SPEAKER_09]: and Jen Rivera, and to our children.

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_09]: To follow our continued efforts on Justice for Jennifer and Adriana Wicks,

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_09]: you can find us on Facebook at justiceforjenniferandadrianawicks.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_09]: This page is personally managed by Casey herself,

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_09]: and you can find me, Jules, hi, on Instagram, at yourhostjules.

[01:10:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Notes and updates can be found on our website,

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_09]: www.missingandhushtown.com.

[01:10:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Please help us continue to grow by considering leaving a 5-star review

[01:10:40] [SPEAKER_09]: and rating wherever you're listening.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_09]: If you have a tip for this case, please, please call 1-800-TBI-FIND

[01:10:47] [SPEAKER_09]: or dial the anonymous tip line at 615-562-0819.

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Help us bring the Wicks Girls home

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_09]: to donate to this family's continued fight for justice.

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_09]: Please visit gofundme.com slash Jennifer and Adriana Wicks.

[01:11:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And to support the podcast and to help us continue this production,

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_09]: you may click support the show in the show notes and donate a Wicks kiss.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_09]: 10% of all profits from season one of Missing in Hush Town

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_09]: will be given to the Wicks family indefinitely.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_09]: As always, you're wanted, you are loved,

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_09]: and you deserve to be found.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Don't you forget it.

[01:11:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll see you next time.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Bye-bye!